tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33004692.post3825598241011995644..comments2023-10-31T12:58:36.729+01:00Comments on Evil HR Lady: Tuition and QuittingSuzanne Lucashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07129772885673695447noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33004692.post-24550728566864072202008-09-17T15:16:00.000+02:002008-09-17T15:16:00.000+02:00I agree with EHRL. But another issue here is that...I agree with EHRL. But another issue here is that the company tried to do the right thing by giving the employee advance notice that the job was ending. Seems like the employer is getting hosed for not firing the person immediately. And how much notice was there - 6 months, 3 months? Makes a difference I think.Catbert is my herohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03265017143844222358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33004692.post-83065001180053959262008-09-16T21:21:00.000+02:002008-09-16T21:21:00.000+02:00Ahhh - a good example of what is wrong with our f...Ahhh - a good example of what is wrong with our financial sector today. Let's just suppose that the education was offered by the employer in good faith (why would they pay if they thought they would outsource). The employee received the benefit of the education and now the employer has to outsource the job. Their stipulation was to stay until the time was convenient for "them" not "employee". Again - a very typical request from any employer who finds themselves in this situation. The employee who got the benefit of the paid education AND didn't want to stay until such time that the employer no longer needs her - goes gets a lawyer to get out of the contract. GREAT! I say give the year of education BACK and call it a day. (jk)<BR/><BR/>Any ehrl fan knows she gives the disclaimer that she's "not a lawyer" ... yalelaw ... get over yourself!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33004692.post-44377092794828170572008-09-16T05:20:00.000+02:002008-09-16T05:20:00.000+02:00You've been tagged.Here are the rules:1) Link to t...You've been tagged.<BR/><BR/>Here are the rules:<BR/>1) Link to the person who tagged you. Please see above.<BR/>2) Post the rules on the blog.<BR/>3) Write six random things about yourself.<BR/>4) Tag six people at the end of your post.<BR/>5) Let each person know they have been tagged.<BR/>6) Let the tagger know when your entry is up.<BR/><BR/>Tag- You're IT!!!<BR/><BR/>Read my six facts on my post: <BR/>http://www.thembtiblog.com/2008/09/next-generation-of-chain-mail-tag-youre.htmlBreannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01038873021051993787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33004692.post-92177754515367926022008-09-15T21:31:00.000+02:002008-09-15T21:31:00.000+02:00Thank you all for your comments, I am the person w...Thank you all for your comments, I am the person who originally e-mailed EHRL for her advice. Thank you Mr. Haven for your advice. I actually made an appointment with a Lawyer, and maybe he can help me out with this employer. I don't feel that I should have to pay it back, because if it wern't fo rme loosing my job, I would have stayed. Negotiating is a good idea, and I hope I have a good case, or that my lawyer is optimistic. <BR/><BR/>Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33004692.post-56356512978953540972008-09-15T19:42:00.001+02:002008-09-15T19:42:00.001+02:00Check out ICanFreelance.com. There are plenty of i...Check out <A HREF="http://www.icanfreelance.com" REL="nofollow">ICanFreelance.com</A>. There are plenty of <A HREF="http://www.icanfreelance.com" REL="nofollow">it outsourcing</A> for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33004692.post-67252340345941117372008-09-15T12:35:00.000+02:002008-09-15T12:35:00.000+02:00Evil Hr lady gives really horrible company bias in...Evil Hr lady gives really horrible company bias info. I am a corporate lawyer for a fortune 10 company and there is no way the company would take you to court and if they did they would get eaten alive. They are outsourcing your job and that makes it your responsibility? Heck no!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33004692.post-10608202074073631972008-09-11T12:31:00.000+02:002008-09-11T12:31:00.000+02:00Question for the poster - do you have a copy of yo...Question for the poster - do you have a copy of your former employee handbook? Is there a policy for tuition reimbursement should your employment be terminated? Do you have anything substantive - like a letter, email, etc indicating that you would be losing your job to outsourcing? <BR/><BR/>We do a whole lot of tuition reimbursement. We would not collect the tuition, that would not be our policy or practice. <BR/><BR/>I would take care of this issue myself, contacting the company before they sent me a letter or called about the $$. I would also ask (if you don't have it) for the POLICY of tuition reimbursement upon termination. I would then ask for their PRACTICE, which may be completely different. I would then ask under what circumstances have they waived tuition repayment? (If they have waived repayment before, this question would make them uncomfortable). <BR/> <BR/>I believe that you have a strong case to refute repayment. <BR/><BR/>HRMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33004692.post-45965465923476633002008-09-11T01:16:00.000+02:002008-09-11T01:16:00.000+02:00I don't think you should be required to repay tuit...I don't think you should be required to repay tuition in this case, or even have to offer to pay 1/3 of the tuition. They told you your job was outsourced and the terms of the outsourcing were that you didn't have to repay tuition, only variable was when was your last day.<BR/><BR/>Given that you are leaving b/c the job was outsourced, I wouldn't start by offering to pay 1/3 of tuition. I'd start with the 'leaving b/c job outsourced, terms of outsourcing were no requirement to repay tuition' line of thinking.<BR/><BR/>Unless there was some incentive to stay presented along with the information that your job was outsourced, like a contract you singed that you will stay for some bonus or benefit such as not repaying tuition, I think your leaving is part of the outsourcing announcement. You were already informed you no longer had a job.<BR/><BR/>Whether or not you repay your tuition doesn't make you more or less 'honest' as EHRL puts it. Under these conditons, I don't see any moral or ethical obligation to repay tuition to remain 'honest'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com